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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 12:30 pm 
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I've been searching for a source for the Hitachi TR6, but they seem to have disappeared. I read somewhere once that they were OK for routing binding/purfling channels because they have an adjustable angle base, and have an index point that attaches to the trimmer body, independent of the base. Anyone here have any experience with these, or know of a source?
Meanwhile, while searching for the TR6, I found this from Homier, who I've never heard of before.

http://www.homier.com/detail.asp?SessionKey=dO0mUAXA8xpwGpef eAIAAiD%2fBHWLlcGcVPVElE4BVnks90N0o2rBmehMavwWnFGadOJJRQ%2bF yx2B&dpt=9&cat=108&sku=02735

For $10 I thought, why not?, and ordered one.

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Chris, I have a TR6 and still use it quite a bit. Hitachi stopped making them a couple of years ago. There were some available on Amazon but I'm not sure if they have any left.

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saw one of these the other day.. I was really impressed...

http://www.boschtools.com/tools/tools-detail.htm?
H=175980&G=66644&I=67466

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No, Amazon doesn't have them anymore, nobody does.
That Bosch looks nice, but it's a fixed base without any side index. Oh well, guess I'll have to try to make something like John Mayes's rig on his binding video, that one looks pretty straightforward.

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Chris, I don't think you will be happy with that HDC laminate trimmer in the long run. I bought one and the plastic holder cracked the first time I tightened it. I made the mistake of buying too many inexpensive tools starting out and have now had the unpleasant fortune of spending even more money to replace them. Try not to get caught in the same trap of buying everything at once. You can't go wrong with one of the Porter Cable trimmers and can sometimes pickup factory refurbished (PC 7310) from CPO Porter Cable on ebay for around $70. I have 2 and can't tell any difference from the store bought one.

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If you can afford it, buy a PC 310-the most universally praised laminate trimmer on the market. Usually about $US159 plus shipping.I have read just about all of the luthier related forum posts and archives out there and except for a break-in period for the collet to easily release a bit, I can't recall a legitimate complaint. Mine is set up for rosettes with a Jasper circle jig and then goes directly to my Williams/Fleischman binding jig-three 8-32 screws each change.Micrometer-like adjustment and so smooth.Then pick up Pat Warner's accessory clear base set (recently $35 incl. ship.)and go crazy making all sorts of jigs with them.


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Chris,
Homier is one of those outfits that travel around and sell at tool shows. They came through Memphis last year and I bought a couple of those $10 trimmers. The first time I used them, one of them burned up( as in smoke city) and the other one vibrated so bad it was virtually unusable. They did take them back though.


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I agree with Mike about the pc 310. I've used a lot of different trimmers
and that is certainly my favorite. You can find factory reconditioned ones
for around 130, although a new one is only 30-40 more.

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I've been loving my Rigid R2400. Inexpensive, rock solid, easy to setup, and
available at Home Depots everywhere. As I primarily do repair work I use it a
lot for cutting saddle slots which it does like a dream!


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[QUOTE=yukonarizona] I've been loving my Rigid R2400. Inexpensive, rock solid, easy to setup, and
available at Home Depots everywhere. As I primarily do repair work I use it a
lot for cutting saddle slots which it does like a dream![/QUOTE]

Yup...and a lifetime warranty! Also, no collet problems, comes with a fence and bearing guide,variable speed, soft start, and a hard case to store everything. Not bad for $100.00.


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I'd never seen that Ridgid before. It looks handy, and I like the variable
speed.
Unfortunately I just couldn't bring myself to buy one unless I could get a
Bishop Cochran base for it .

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I never hear anyone talk about Makita laminate trimmers. I have one and plan on getting another sometime in the future to leave set up on my binding jig full time.

I love this little trimmer, does everything I throw at it. It's great. And $120 canadian to boot.

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I have one of those too rod.


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I scored this one on ebay for $20.00. It looks just the Makita. It's a Superior SPT 189. The price was OK. I haven't put it into action just yet. It maxes out at 20,000 rpm's?


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I like the 310. It's a tiny router, really, all-metal, all-great. Doesn't come with fancy tilting bases or edge guides, though.


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I have 4 of the Makita 3707FC's I love em.

I have one of the cheap makita-esqe knock offs too. IT totally sucks.

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I have several of the Rigid brand tools, and have been happy wih all of them.

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   Those $20 trimmers are not worth the cost. The runout is terrible. They will get you started but you may find they are not worth the trouble. I used to use them on my binders till I had a batch with bad quills.
   The best trimmer on the market for luthiers is the PC 7310. The base has a thumbscrew adjuster that is great for dialing in the perfect depth. I guess it comes down to you get what you pay for.
    It is very painful to ruin a $1000 set of BRW because you "saved money " on a cheap tool.
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Points taken regarding those cheap trimmers. I do intend on getting
some good quality ones, but I have some other non luthier
applications that the junk ones will work for OK. I'm looking at one
of those Rigid R2400's right now.

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I bought myself a PC 7310 John, so in your experience it's the real deal for what we do ?


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the Porter cable trimmers are very nice too.

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I love mine. I have makita and the PC7310. The base on the porter cable makes fine adjustments so much easier
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Amazon's selling the PC 7310for $93.09.


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They also are selling the 310 for $209.

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I have a Bosch and a PC 310. They both are very nice. I don't like the way the Bosch base adjusts up and down though. It never seems quite vertical to me. The PC 310 is a workhorse. It also looks like a droid from Star Wars. That's the real upside to it!

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